Mass Effect 3 ending *spoiler alert*

WTF?!

Why the hell would you end a trilogy like that?

Great, now i know that the game ends. Thanks alot Smile

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12/21/2012 it all ends!!!! Laughing

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pdXjoe wrote:

12/21/2012 it all ends!!!! Laughing

Vector wrote:

pdXjoe wrote:

12/21/2012 it all ends!!!! Laughing

Actually, by that calendar the world already ended as there has been leap years that the Mayans didn't account for.

logic wins!

Maybe.......

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I thought the Mayan calender only counted days, not years. So it wouldnt matter if there were leap years or not, days = days.

My personal prediction 12-21-12... nothing. Well except some nutjobs do the world a favor and suicide because the world is ending anyway.

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Vector wrote:

pdXjoe wrote:

12/21/2012 it all ends!!!! Laughing

Actually, by that calendar the world already ended as there has been leap years that the Mayans didn't account for.

This

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back on topic... *Spoilers* Uh its 4:15am and i finally beat the entire trilogy. I don't know whether to be angry with the ending or chalking it up as a great 2.75 part series. The sacrifices you make in the game is for absolutely nothing. Same outcome no matter what. I'm not asking for a puppies and rainbow ending, but give me a little gratification for uniting the universe. Not Joker walking out of the Normandy with his brittle bone disease.

p.s. correct me if i'm wrong, but wouldn't destroying the mass effect relays be almost worse than the reapers winning? In The Arrival, it was firmly established that the destruction of a Mass Relay would result in an explosion resembling a supernova, destroying the relay’s star system. So many plot holes..... I need to go to bed.

I fixed the topic subject to include a spoiler alert.
I'm trying not to read any of the posts...na-na-na-na.... Smile

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p.s. correct me if i'm wrong, but wouldn't destroying the mass effect relays be almost worse than the reapers winning? In The Arrival, it was firmly established that the destruction of a Mass Relay would result in an explosion resembling a supernova, destroying the relay’s star system. So many plot holes..... I need to go to bed.

My impression was that the destruction of the relays at the end of Mass Effect 3 was different than in Arrival; I suppose it would be the difference between something collapsing and something being violently impacted with an enormous object.

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My problems with the ending:

They killed off the entire universe (not dead-dead, but the cycle).

Everybody is trapped in the Sol system and smurf in the end cause earth is smurf, no way to get home, no way for supplies, etc.

Nobody has a means of long distance travel anymore, therefore all the races are isolated again. Granted that would give them drive to invent a new way of doing things (or try to re-build the mass relays) but the several million years of galactic history is ended.

They never explained how the normandy was traveling when the shockwave hit them. Did they run away from the battle? Why? Did they land to pick up all the crew? How did they do that if there was reaper AA everywhere?

Also the only 3 options in the ending are terrible... the AI of the citadel, which supposedly controls the reapers, just decided to end everything cause "lol you got closest out of everyone and discovered my plans *ragequit* heres 3 shitty options"
1: Destroy the reapers and in the end you will be smurf by AI of your own creation, and the relays are destroyed.
2: Control the reapers and send them back to darkspace (which implies they will come back one day, but the relays are all destroyed)
3: Merge AI and organics together to give everyone circuit skin and cyber eyes! But everyone is still smurf cause the relays are destroyed.

Even if the Patented Crucible Mass Effect Relay Destruction Beam didnt produce a shockwave that killed a star system, everyone is still screwed.

Like said before... too many plot holes with that damn ending.

Interstellar travel is still possible without the relays. You do it in every single Mass Effect game. It's just slower is all. Systems are more isolated but not absolutely. Given all the Reaper corpses around you'd think it might be possible to unlock the secrets of constructing mass relays.

I'll admit I was confused about the Normandy escaping though. When/why/how?

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I have been researching the ending for awhile and have come to the conclusion that the ending makes ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE -unless- the theory of Shepard being in an indoctrinated hallucination is true.

Shepard gets hit by the beam at the end, everything after that is a hallucination caused by Harbinger to try and indoctrinate Shepard. Notice you can only get the special ending with Shepard alive if you choose to destroy the reapers. That's because its all in his mind and destroying the reapers frees him from the final stage of indoctrination. If you choose Control or Synthesis you become indoctrinated.

There are several hints that point to this being true.

1: How did Anderson get infront of you? There is radio chatter before you go in the beam stating that nobody made it in.

2: The "guardian" that appears as the boy infront of Shepard looks like a ghost. In several instances throughout the series it states that people becoming indoctrinated see "ghosts"

3: The "paragon" and "renegade" choices at the ends are reversed. It shows trying to control the reapers as "blue" or "paragon". While destroying them is "bad"/"red"/"renegade". This HIGHLY suggests that the reapers are trying to convince Shepard that TRYING to control them is a good thing. This is the EXACT same way both Saren and the Illusive man were indoctrinated.

4: After choosing the "destroy" option and if you have a high enough readiness score, it will show a brief extra scene at the end of Shepard waking up from some rubble. THIS IS IMPORTANT! The rubble is clearly from London, and not the Citadel. There is no possible way Shepard fell down FROM SPACE to the ground of Earth and survived without being a smoking cinder. The only way this scene makes sense is because Shepard was WAKING UP FROM THE DELUSION, he chose to destroy the Reapers, thus making the indoctrination a failure.

5: The whole Joker flying the Normandy from one Relay being exploded to another Relay being exploded makes NO SENSE on MULTIPLE levels. They magically land on some tropical planet that somehow wasn't destroyed by the Mass Relays exploding.
This REEKS of something Shepard is dreaming/hallucinating,.

6: When Shepard is walking towards the beam on London, you can clearly see people dying, with rubble surrounding him. AFTER he wakes up however, if you look closely you can see that there are piles and mounds of CORPSES. Where did they all come from? Why would anyone pile them up like that. It all points to a hallucination.

There are several other hints but these are the most solid.

It is well known that after the script leaked from the XBOX LIVE demo people were upset with the ORIGINALLY planned ending. This could mean Bioware did this trick ending to give them enough time to do a proper ending in an upcoming DLC. It would be pretty cool if this turns out to be true, because it would be a total mind f*** and turn a horrible ending into an amazing one.

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6: When Shepard is walking towards the beam on London, you can clearly see people dying, with rubble surrounding him. AFTER he wakes up however, if you look closely you can see that there are piles and mounds of CORPSES. Where did they all come from? Why would anyone pile them up like that. It all points to a hallucination.

This part at least makes perfect sense, as it's stated earlier that the Reapers are taking humans from Earth - both dead and alive - through the beam to the Citadel.

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Jaden wrote:

1: How did Anderson get infront of you? There is radio chatter before you go in the beam stating that nobody made it in.

Shepard could have been unconscious for a longer period of time once he went through the beam.

I hope your theory is correct. Huge mind **** if that's true! I had Garrus and Liara with me as we're running to the beam; what an untheatrical way for Garras and Liara to die. Especially Garrus.... "Just like old times Shepard." I like Garrus way to much for him to be.... phew phew... dead.

The Anderson thing can be explained pretty simply, the radio says no one made it in BEFORE you enter the beam. When you make contact with Anderson on the Citadel he says he followed you in, but ended up in a different part of the Citadel.

But some of the other evidence does make a bit of sense. So I'm still unsure.

http://www.oxm.co.uk/39736/rev.....e-release/

Intresting....

That ending would have been alot better, atleast the series was atleast sort of building up to it, where as the one they have now was pretty freaking random.