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Is it just me or does it look like the Protoss have Uber units compared to Terran?? The way they present it the Mother ship are the best thing since sliced cheese. It just doesn't seem fare to make Protoss the best again...
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| Mon Sep 10, 2007 12:33 pm |
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Spork
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In my opinion it looks like the idea is to have economy be the balance. Sure the protos may have the uber units but the human units could be cheaper, kind of a zergling type thing.
Only time will tell, I look forward to getting to play when it's released. 
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| Mon Sep 10, 2007 1:22 pm |
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Only time will tell, I look forward to getting to play when it's released.  | Thank god sooner then Duke Nukem Fornever
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| Mon Sep 10, 2007 1:40 pm |
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On the starcraft2 website they only show like half of the protoss units, around 1/3 of the terran units, and no zerg units have been released yet. Protoss has been pretty much the main race shown off at these few presentations for a game thats ETA is over a year away so you can't judge the entire game on this. Protoss is not overpowered and Starcraft will probably go down as the most balanced game made.
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| Mon Sep 10, 2007 3:01 pm |
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| Is it just me or does it look like the Protoss have Uber units compared to Terran?? The way they present it the Mother ship are the best thing since sliced cheese. It just doesn't seem fare to make Protoss the best again... |
Protoss weren't the best.
They've developed the Protoss more than the other races so far. It's not even close to release yet.
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| Mon Sep 10, 2007 3:07 pm |
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Protoss weren't the best.
They've developed the Protoss more than the other races so far. It's not even close to release yet. |
You get to even matched players one on Terran and the other on Protoss and Protoss will win almost every time.
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| Mon Sep 10, 2007 5:18 pm |
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Xelmon
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Protoss weren't the best.
They've developed the Protoss more than the other races so far. It's not even close to release yet. | You get to even matched players one on Terran and the other on Protoss and Protoss will win almost every time. | That might be true... Point of the game, especially being a terran is to be sneaky or to have absolute brute force.
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| Mon Sep 10, 2007 11:07 pm |
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Church
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Protoss weren't the best.
They've developed the Protoss more than the other races so far. It's not even close to release yet. |
You get to even matched players one on Terran and the other on Protoss and Protoss will win almost every time. |
I've watched Terran burn protoss many many times, and it wasn't like one player was obviously better than the other.
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| Tue Sep 11, 2007 6:02 am |
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100% false. I played SC2 at Blizzcon, and it is by no means 1 sided at all. The mothership is by no means imbalanced whatsoever. It has great damage potentials, but isn't invulnerable. It has a lot of HP, but can die.
It takes an enormous amount of tech, which will be taking away from your expanding/army capabilities at that time. If scouted/anticipated correctly, the other player could establish a lot more map control and or pressure the Toss expo as a counter measure. This is of course assuming that the Toss is going relatively straight to mothership by turtling (Which is a terrible idea).
Spork, the economy theory isn't quite how it works. Actual protoss play style does not involve using large units, though that is somewhat of the lore of the game. The actual play style most times actually includes fast expanding and massing. Neither race really has an overall sense of better units in either SC1 or SC2 in my experience so far.
Facilitator, what the hell are you talking about? "You get to even matched players one on Terran and the other on Protoss and Protoss will win almost every time." ???????????
I do not think you hear nearly the knowledge for the game that you need to in order to make such judgements. I'd imagine this opinion game from "3v3 BGH!!!" "3v3 $$$$ GOGOGO". Protoss is definitely not imbalanced vs Terran, and it's not the other way around either. And no Xelmon, that is not the point of the game, lol. Terran play style in SC1 and seems to carry into SC2 still relies on strong progressive pushes that go throughout the game.
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| Tue Sep 11, 2007 9:41 am |
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Dear lord I've started a monster...
I think I did make my subject a question... Meaning that I don't know the answer. In my limited exp of the first game I've seen Protoss own thats all I'm sayin.
I hereby dub myself SC noob...
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| Tue Sep 11, 2007 10:01 am |
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TS28
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Dear lord I've started a monster...
I think I did make my subject a question... Meaning that I don't know the answer. In my limited exp of the first game I've seen Protoss own thats all I'm sayin.
I hereby dub myself SC noob... |
Sorry, most times when people make threads like "Could this be over powered?" they say things to make it seem like it obviously is, yet still act as if it is a question. Gets aggravating *twitch*. Hearing people say incorrect things about Blizzard games to me is about the same as people saying "BUT IRAQ HAD WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION, WE NEEDED TO SAVE OUR FREEDOM!!!" to me xD
I'm always happy to inform the public though ^^ sorry for being harsh X_X
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| Tue Sep 11, 2007 10:22 am |
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...I'm always happy to inform the public though ^^ sorry for being harsh X_X |
It's all good bro.
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| Tue Sep 11, 2007 11:17 am |
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There's a reason Starcraft is still being played in tournaments, regardless of its crappy resolution and 2bit graphics.
If you saw a terran lose against a toss, chances are either one player was better or the terran didn't build right. There are certain strats versus protoss that you wouldn't carry versus Zerg.
Against Toss: vultures/tanks with turrets and the occasional bunker.
Against Zerg: M&M or goliaths, with a couple tanks and turrets.
Word.
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